Question by Felonius Monkey: Is this a well-understood fact about the healthcare reform bills?
In socialized medicine the government controls everything. But here in America every bill advanced so far calls for private physicians, nurses, hospitals, clinics, labs and medical equipment companies. The only government involvement would be with insurance.
Right now private insurance overhead consumes one-third (31 percent) of every healthcare dollar. I’m not talking about the cost of paying doctors, I’m talking about administrative salaries and paperwork.(http://www.pnhp.org/)
Why is anyone fighting so preserve this level of bureaucracy?
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Answer by prusa1237
You are pedaling propaganda.
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You have obviously not read The Bill (whichever one out of the 5 they choose – 1 not even being known yet).
You are correct.
The hospitals still have to fund themselves… but the government will dictate their policies.
Docs will still have to put themselves through school and pay off their loans… but the government will dictate their pay.
You hit it on the head! Thanks for making out point!
people are being led by people with other agendas and the one being led simply do not understand.*
We aren’t, we are just fighting to preserve our right to choose. Isn’t that what the “pro-choice” group has been screaming for years?! It’s our right to decide what to do with our own bodies, not the governments decision.
Look at the DMV. Do you honestly want bureaucrats overseeing your health care?
And you think another layer of bureaucracy, this time by the government, which is accountable to no one, will make this system better? Do you need mental health counseling?
Because A. they don’t know any better and are just doing what the puppet masters say, or B. They have interests in the system the way it is now.
Maybe it is because we have people who are going to vote on something that they have not read, nor could they understand. Maybe it is because we know the govt never stops. They will continue to add more control and take more from us. Maybe because the govt cannot seem to run anything more efficient than private sector. Who knows, maybe I am wrong? But those are just some of my thoughts.
I think it’s because they simply choose not to believe what are facts. They have in their heads that this is a front for socialized medicine–and God forbid we have anything like Medicare, Medicaid, and Veteran health care program. It’s amazing to me the ignorance out there about what reform would mean.
once they get there foot in the door
they’ll open another
Yes you’re right. Except in England and other European countries who have great healthcare, their is a single payer system. People can choose their doctors, hospitals etc. The government pays but the hospitals and doctors are private. Administrative costs are around 3%. No insurance corporations making medical decisions in these countries. Only the doctor and patient making the decisions with no bureaucrat getting in the way. It runs like our Medicare. And, it runs very well and efficiently.
Our system with Insurance corporations as middlemen are a huge cause of our problems. They make us pay huge premiums (my husband and I pay $ 1200 a month for standard care) and then ultimately deny care by having a corporate bureaucrat make the decisions. And, yes, the overhead is 20 to 31% of every healthcare dollar to insurance corporations for administration costs and this is going to go up. The doctors literally have to fight to get paid for proceedures when dealing with insurance corporations.
Why is anyone fighting so preserve this level of bureaucracy?
Good question. We should all be fighting for Medicare for all.
You believe that the government bureaucracy will be less?
Check Mate.
I want no bureaucracy.
How about that.
No insurance either.
It was suppose to make doctors cheaper.
What a joke.
Granted. I will give you that 31% overhead costs, that does seem reasonable.
However, what will be the governmental costs with all of the bureaucratic administrative be 31% on top of that? Two sets of administrative costs?
If what the liberals propose is so dog gone good, the how come congress has exempted themselves from it?
and you are wrong about just the “insurance”. there are many governmental entanglements in it too.
Just like the chants at the town halls…. read the bill…. That is something this dysfunctional congress has not done very many times.
government has a lot of administration and paperwork and regulations and red tape as well. there involvement in health care has only increased the demand for doctors while reducing the supply of them, causing prices to go up. we need to back to a true free market system where the patient pays the doctor, like in the 1950′s. more of what got us into the problem will not fix the problem.
all of us paying for medicare. the House of reps squander the whole damn thing. renting wheelchairs for 15.000 a year while they just can be bought for 400.00. they then have the balls to criticize Obama on wanting reforms to curb these ridiculous waste I can see from my chair where they allegiance lies and it is not on the people side and yet it is sad to see that some misinformed fall for the GOP idiots scare tactics.
It is called ignorant Conservatism…12 % still think Hawaii is a foreign country. They aren’t the brightest bulbs on the tree.